The Prime Minister Anthony Albanese is in Melbourne. Good morning. Thank you for coming in.
ANTHONY ALBANESE, PRIME MINISTER: Good morning. Wonderful to be here, Raf.
EPSTEIN: I do just want to start with this little altercation outside court. I just wonder, pretend for a moment you're not well known as a Prime Minister. If you walk down the street, saw a neo-Nazi leader who you knew off TV, would you say something?
PRIME MINISTER: I don't want to encourage altercations on the street. So, the truth is I am the Prime Minister and therefore won't encourage what could lead to altercations. We know that this guy, of course, I have nothing but contempt for both - not so much him, it's not personal - it's his ideology, it's what he stands for, which is hate.
EPSTEIN: Can I just play you a little bit of what our stranger, his name's David. People will hear from him later on. I just want to play you a little bit of what he said about why he did say something.
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DAVID: Hate's really toxic. It's really contagious and it doesn't take a lot of thought.